Showing posts with label save the apple. Show all posts
Showing posts with label save the apple. Show all posts
Sunday, September 14, 2008
Looks like The Mets have accepted the Mets Police compromise of bringing The Apple to Citi Field.
The Post reports that even though there will be a new apple, the old one will have a place at the new park.
See Mets, we can meet each other half way on things. Now how about wearing the black only on Sunday?
The Post reports that even though there will be a new apple, the old one will have a place at the new park.
See Mets, we can meet each other half way on things. Now how about wearing the black only on Sunday?
Tuesday, September 09, 2008
Citi Field will have a new apple next year. That's disappointing.
The Apple crowd breaks down like this:
a) people who want the existing Apple.
b) people who want the Apple to say Brooklyn Dodgers (well one guy named Fred)
c) people who don't care at all.
d) people that have no idea what we're talking about.
What doesn't exist is a contingent of folks who want a new Apple.
I'm sure the new Apple will be all shiny and pretty and may even have a corporate logo on it. That misses the point.
We want THIS Apple. The one that was there in the 80's and is there today. The only recognizable thing from Shea Stadium to bring over.
Yes I know it barely works and it's made of plywood. That's the point. It's ours. The Mets. The working class team.
When you move houses you bring all kinds of crap from the old place. The lawn mower that barely works but maybe you'll fix it someday - you bring it and it sits in the shed.
Bring the Apple.
The rest of the stadium can be shiny and new. Stick the old Apple in the corner. Heck, have two apples. Put the Apple in Non-ument Park. We can visit it before the game.
Mets, can you reconsider this one?
Tuesday, July 01, 2008
Corporate Field Wish List
Anonymous
Banner Day, citi field, citifield, Mrs. Met, save the apple, shea, tom seaver
The Mets (ok, specifically the Wilpons), like to speak about how the new ballpark next year - Corporate Field (because you know the name will be resold at some point) - was built with the fans in mind.
Really Fred?
You built this thinking of me? I'm flattered and amazed considering I, nor any of the other Mets fans I know of were ever asked what we wanted.
Corporate Field looks like it's going to be an amazing place to see a game (for those that will be able to afford it). However let's be honest here. The park was designed by you, for you. Now don't get me wrong, you are the owner of the team and since you are paying for it you do have the right to do it the way you want it to be done.
But if you are serious about listening to what the fans want, then I have a few things I'd like you to consider:
Really Fred?
You built this thinking of me? I'm flattered and amazed considering I, nor any of the other Mets fans I know of were ever asked what we wanted.
Corporate Field looks like it's going to be an amazing place to see a game (for those that will be able to afford it). However let's be honest here. The park was designed by you, for you. Now don't get me wrong, you are the owner of the team and since you are paying for it you do have the right to do it the way you want it to be done.
But if you are serious about listening to what the fans want, then I have a few things I'd like you to consider:
- Tom Seaver Statue: I am really shocked that this has not been announced or even discussed publicly yet. The Mets are going to honor Jackie Robinson, a man who never played for, coached, or managed the team, yet the one player who for 40 years has been The Franchise, the only player wearing a Mets cap in the Hall of Fame, is not being honored??? There should be a larger than life statue of Tom Terrific outside the front gates to the new ballpark. Period.
- William A. Shea Plaza: And the place to put that statue, the brick covered area in front of the rotunda, should honor the man who made the Mets possible. I would love the new ballpark to be called Shea, but I am not naive and know that corporate naming rights are all but neccessary. That doesn't mean the team should not find a way to honor Bill - and something more than putting his name up on the outfield wall.
- Keep The Apple: OK, I went back and forth on this for quite a while. I am not the biggest fan of the apple - actually I find it very bush league and seems to only contribute to the Mets being looked at like a 2nd class club in this city. However, the reality is the mets will always be that, so, as Jerry Manuel himself has done, it's time to embrace that. Don't put a new apple - the apple is hokey because it's such a piece of ....well garbage to say it nicely.
- Banner Day: What ever happened to this? I know it used to be done between games of a double-header and we don't have those on the schedule anymore. So here's an idea. Schedule a double-header with the first game between the Brooklyn Cyclones and the Staten Island Yankees. No room in the locker rooms? No problem - these are class A guys, they can change on the bus. Gives them a thrill to play on a major league field, gives the fans something unique and fun, and gives us back banner day
- New York Giants: No, not the football team in New Jersey. As we have been saying on here for a while, the Mets seem to forget that they were formed, and received their colors, from two teams. It's great that they honor the Dodgers with the design of Corporate Field and with the naming of the rotunda. Now it's time to honor the other team as well. How about naming the outfield grandstands for Willie Mays? He even was a Met so it makes it an easier pill to swallow.
- Mrs. Met: What ever happened to Mrs. Met? Did she run off with Dandy (the short-lived Yankee mascot from 1980)? She was the first female professional sports mascot and deserves to be brought back.
Friday, May 30, 2008

I don't know what to make of this Seaver Jersey. It's odd. It's something A-Rod would do. However it's better than the dopey black uniforms. I'd actually them rather this on a Sunday than the dopey black unis or something with Los in it. (Do they wear "The Mets" - no they don't. So why be "Los Mets." But I digress.)
This guy below (not me) doesn't like Mets radiocasts. I disagree with him and I like Howie and Wayne. Howie needs to be even more honest about the b.s. attendance figures....and the dude is right about the annoying F-A-N thing every half inning. I'll listen to the oppositions radiocasts just to avoid it. It got old 15 years ago.
Gary Carter Apologized again:
Since it's long and boring here's an excerpt:
“I have been inundated with requests for interviews regarding my comments about the New
“I want to publicly apologize to Willie Randolph, and the Mets, for my radio comments. Throughout my career, and in many cases to my detriment, I have been open and honest with the media and at times discretion may have been a better choice. I continue to be an avid fan of Willie and the Mets, and have confidence that this team will be successful.
“Thank you to all my fans who understand my tendency to wear my heart on my sleeve and let my enthusiasm get the best of me at times. I am honored by your support.”
“I want to publicly apologize to Willie Randolph, and the Mets, for my radio comments. Throughout my career, and in many cases to my detriment, I have been open and honest with the media and at times discretion may have been a better choice. I continue to be an avid fan of Willie and the Mets, and have confidence that this team will be successful.
“Thank you to all my fans who understand my tendency to wear my heart on my sleeve and let my enthusiasm get the best of me at times. I am honored by your support.”
Actually I don't know if a single person who supports him right now. More people support Willie.
The Apple. Why do the Wilpon's fight this one? There is not a single person who wants a new apple. People either want the original apple, or don't care about apples at all. Why upset the fanbase? Stick the dopey wooden apple in the outfield and shut us up.
Wednesday, May 14, 2008
More Apple distraction. They are getting us mentally ready for a new Apple. We want this Apple. Note the wag-the-dog in this article from mlb.com. Like the Apple is going to dissolve if someone sticks it on a flat-bed truck. Can someone come up with a picture of the Apple being used at Ebbett's field? Maybe that will work. Also interesting is that's it's OK if someone buries a Yankees jersey.NEW YORK -- Citi Field may have a something-less-than-new component.
The Mets' new home next season may have a piece of their current home -- the Apple. No matter what, a home run apple will be installed just beyond the outfield wall -- as it is at Shea Stadium -- but this one will be left of center. And according to Mets COO Jeff Wilpon, it hasn't yet been determined whether the old one can handle the move or whether a replacement will be necessary.
Ah, apple turnover.
Wilpon said the Mets haven't guarded against some unscrupulous soul placing a piece of opponents' paraphernalia at Citi Field as someone supposedly did with the new Yankee Stadium.
The Yankees, knowing precisely where to dig, removed a David Ortiz T-shirt from under a block of cement at their construction site in April.
"And as soon as they did, what happened?" Wilpon said. "Ortiz started hitting, right? He'd been in a slump, and then boom, as soon as they dug it up.
"We'll just let it stay there."
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
I should be excited. I'm not. You watch the video and you tell me.
From Newsday:
In straightaway centerfield, there is a circular opening directly behind the wall. When Wilpon was asked what that was for, he gladly said, "The apple!"
Wilpon did not know whether the existing apple from Shea Stadium will make the move, or whether they will use a new apple.
From Newsday:
In straightaway centerfield, there is a circular opening directly behind the wall. When Wilpon was asked what that was for, he gladly said, "The apple!"
Wilpon did not know whether the existing apple from Shea Stadium will make the move, or whether they will use a new apple.
Friday, May 09, 2008
2009 presents an opportunity to start fresh in a new ballpark. Some suggestions:1. Embrace Mets tradition. This is no longer an expansion team. 45+ years. The Dodgers left a half-century ago. Let Los Angeles have them. Focus on the Mets. 1969, 1986. You've done a good job embracing 1986 on SNY, now do so with the team. Have some days to honor the guys we all love - Keith, Mookie, Wally, Gary....even invite Straw and Gooden back (when he's available).
2. Put a Met in place as manager. No more Yankees. I'm openly in favor of Mazzilli. How about Backman? Carter. Hojo. Fans will love it.
3. Stop with the black uniforms. White pinstripes at home, the current road uniforms with a blue hat for the road. If you want to sell black or yellow or polka dots stuff at Modell's that's fine. Just look like a baseball team on the field.
4. Create "The Mets Way." When knuckleheads arise, rid the franchise of them. No more Vince Colemans. The Mets did a good job getting Milledge out. If Pedro can't be bothered to show up and wave on Opening Day then good riddance.
5. David Wright is The Captain. This franchise lacks a career long franchise player. Let's keep him here forever and let him be the captain. He doesn't need a cheesy C on his jersey, but let it be known he is the man. Even if he just has OK stats for his career, the fans love him. Let us love him for a long time.
6. Tell Seaver to show up. If it takes paying him $50,000 per appearance like the Yankees had to do for Joe DiMaggio, then do it.
7. Bring the Apple. Why does management fight on this one? Bring the apple. yes we know it doesn't work so well. It's ours and we want it there, just bring it.
Monday, April 21, 2008
A long one...and I'm still unsure if the etiquette of posting...but it's important we save the Apple.My take: I want THIS apple, not a new one, at CitiField.
Mets' Home Run Apple loved to core
BY ANTHONY McCARRON DAILY NEWS
The Home Run Apple has been a fixture at Shea Stadium since early in the 1980 season.
The Apple rises out of its top hat to celebrate a Mets home run; a push of the button from the press level starts the elevator mechanism inside the hat, much to the delight of Met fans.
Darryl Strawberry is laughing on the other end of the phone when talk turns to the Home Run Apple at Shea. Some believe it's a hokey throwback to days when the Mets might do anything to distract fans from their dreadful team on the field, but others, like the ex-slugger, cling to it as a hammy symbol of nostalgia in the ballpark's final season.
"Love it," Strawberry says with a giggle. "It's the Big Apple, you know? I have a lot of fond memories of making that thing come up. That apple has always been special to me - it means you've done something good."
The apple is a nine-foot mass of fiberboard slathered in red paint that, whenever a Met blasts a homer at Shea, pops out of a 10-foot, upside-down black top hat made of plywood. The Mets logo on the apple lights up and blinks. The phrase "Home Run," which replaced the original "Mets Magic," an offshoot of the Mets' old "The Magic is Back" campaign, is visible on the top hat.
The apple, all 582 pounds of it, appeared behind the fence, to the right of the 410-foot mark in center field, during the 1980 season. No one can remember exactly when it made its debut, but Joe Donohue, one of those responsible for inventing it, guessed its debut was around late May.
The Joe Torre-led Mets were awful back then. Tom Seaver was gone, Strawberry and Dwight Gooden were a few years away and the 1980 Mets finished fifth in the NL East at 67-95.
"They were trying to put a positive marketing spin on the franchise," recalls Dave Howard, the Mets' current executive vice president of business operations. "There was some backlash - some people said, 'What Magic?' Or 'The Magic is Tragic.'
"But since then it has become an icon of the franchise. It has resonated with the young fan. I got a new appreciation of it going to games with my kids. Someone would hit a home run and they'd say, 'Dad, the apple's coming out.' They'd get so excited."
That feeling is why there will be some sort of apple at the Mets' new home, Citi Field, which opens next season, Howard says. "Planning the new park, we always felt there should be some kind of apple," Howard says. "Whether it's the same one or not, that's something we're still weighing. Either way, the apple will be represented."
That's good news to Mets fans Lonnie Klein and Andrew Perlgut, who've known each other since attending high school at Horace Mann. The pair had an epiphany at a 2006 game after watching Carlos Beltran coax the apple out of the hat with a homer.
"We looked at each other and said, 'What's going to happen to the apple?'" Klein says. "We decided to have some fun with it." They started a Web site, savetheapple.com, dedicated to encouraging the Mets to bring the old toy to their new home. As of yesterday afternoon, they had collected 7,115 signatures on their online petition.
"The apple represents the fun of the Mets," says Klein, a 26-year-old law student. "They are kind of the upstart kids and the fans really take that attitude to heart. The apple is part of that and it'd be a shame if it's not brought over to the new stadium."
Donohue was the Mets' director of promotions back when the apple was dreamed up. While some call him "The Applefather," Donohue also gives credit to his then-assistant, Jim Plummer, now the Mets' director of corporate services, and Met executives Al Harazin and Frank Cashen. Nelson Doubleday and Fred Wilpon, who had just bought the team, deserve acknowledgment, too, Donohue says.
New York City was being promoted as "The Big Apple" around that time, which meant the Home Run Apple is perhaps a perfect merger of that slogan and the Mets' 1980 motto of "The Magic is Back."
Newspapers mocked the Mets' slogan, considering how bad the team was. The Daily News even ran a "Mets v. Maris" contest, tracking the Met homers against the pace of former Yankees slugger Roger Maris, who had slugged 61 home runs in 1961. The '80 Mets finished with 61 homers, too.
While fans enjoyed it, the apple may not have been universally loved inside Mets offices. Howard recalled that he once sat next to Cashen at a game and, when the apple popped up, Cashen told Howard, "That's Harazin's folly."
"At the time, it was just another way to entertain," Donohue says. "It's funny, now we take a lot for granted, with computers and hydraulics. The hydraulics of the apple were pretty basic."
There is an elevator inside the hat that pushes up the apple. It is operated from the control booth, which is to the left of home plate on the press level. The scoreboard is operated from the same room. An electrician pushes buttons to raise or lower the apple and the apple can be stopped, too, as a stunned Strawberry learned when he was a member of the Yankees.
The Yankees had to play a home game at Shea against the Angels on April 15, 1998 because a beam had collapsed at Yankee Stadium two days earlier, crushing several rows of seats. In the bottom of the fifth inning of the Yankees' Shea "home game," Strawberry smacked a solo homer off the Angels' Omar Olivares.
Though Strawberry no longer wore Met colors, the apple shot up - halfway - delighting the crowd of 40,743, an homage to a former Met superstar.
"I was like, 'Bring it up the whole way!'" Strawberry says now. "It was different, seeing that, after the times I was there, my eight years playing at Shea. There was an excitement, because of my history playing there with the Mets."
The apple can be a maintenance headache. Bob Mandt, who was the stadium operations manager from 1983 until his retirement in 2004 and is now a Met consultant, recalls that if it was left uncovered, the top hat could fill with rain. "Sometimes," Mandt says, "it would get stuck up or down and you had to wait it out and send the electrician out there."
Mostly, though, the apple is loved. A few years ago, the Mets gave their season-ticket holders a gift of a clock made out of a replica of the top hat and apple. In 1981, Donohue says, he designed a lapel pin with the Met logo, the apple and a stem.
Donohue, who now runs his own event management company, EventSavvy, jokes that he'd take the apple home with him and put it in his front yard "if I could satisfy the zoning board" in his New Jersey hometown.
"Realistically, I'd love to have that apple, in all its lo-tech glory, be seen and celebrated at Citi Field," Donohue says. "It really kept fans entertained while Frank and his team rebuilt the team on the field.
"I have some ideas on how we can make everybody happy in the new park. I have a presentation in mind that I'd be happy to make to the Mets. I'm intrigued by the aerial photos of the new stadium; it looks like there's a space for it."
If there's no spot for the old one at Citi Field, Strawberry has a suggestion: "Put it on eBay. I know somebody would love to have it. They could bid on it.
"In the new park, you might have to build a new one, the old one might not look right and it might be exciting to have a new, bright red apple up there."


