Showing posts with label Heath Bell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Heath Bell. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 04, 2009

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"Skillman" and Heath Bell

I got some email in the inbox about yesterday's "Skillman" post which discussed how the Mets got nothing for Heath Bell  who is now the Padres closer.

Yeah, I thought Heath Bell had some promise when we had him. But the entire '05 bullpen was a disaster, and Bell may not have been the best of the bad lot. In any case, they were actually worse than last year (last year wasn't a total disaster until Wagner went down), and not a single one of them was back for '06 (though we did get Bert Hernandez back at the deadline, along with Ollie Perez, after Duaner went down). So all I can really say about Bell is that I'm glad he's doing well where he is, and glad that he's not in our division (;-). Not that the Pads as a whole will scare anybody this year anyway. 


And speaking of Bell, Royce Ring (the supposed hot prospect lefty reliever we got from the Chisox for Robby Alomar, but he did even worse for us in '05) just pitched a scoreless inning-and-a-third against us today for the Cards. And yeah, they still have Pujols and Chris Duncan held out of the WBC, and both contributed mightily to slaughtering us. Oh well, it is only Spring Training, the guys who are in the WBC are getting to play (and they did get the 80-pitch opposite-field drill, which some of them might even still remember in April), and we get to figure out which of our new (and not-so-new) "small names," is Nick put it, are worth keeping around. Still looks like Freddy Garcia will not be among them, though he claimed he felt better today.

And some about the Jon Matlack post - and yes I am a jerk for spelling his name wrong.

To be fair, Matlack (first name spelled 'Jon,' BTW) had had a lousy year in '77 (7-15, 4.21, which was a much worse ERA then (especially in the NL) than it would be now), and really only had one good year with Texas: 15-13, 2.27 in '78. After that he was .500 or below every year, ERA never below 3.5 (cf. his lifetime average of 3.18, though much of that is the difference between the DH and "pure" leagues), only one other year ('80) with more than 200 IP (pretty standard for a front-line starter in those days) or 100 SO. Milner had a couple of good years with the Pirates (and IIRC always seemed to kill us, and we were in the same division then and saw him 18 times a year), getting back to the WS with them in '79, but not much after that. And don't forget, we also got Ken Henderson and Tom Grieve in that trade (;-).

But no, it was far from the best trade the Mets ever made. But these being the Mets, far from the worst either. Remember, this was the regime of M. Donald Grant, who earlier that same year had traded Seaver. Not coincidentally, the previous year was the last time the Mets finished over .500 (or were anywhere near contending) until '84.
I've been reaching out to some slightly older Mets fans to walk me through the transition from '73 to '77.  It's a little before my time but I'm increasingly interested in how the Mets went from outdrawing the Yankees by a million fan to being the team I remember with five starters hitting .230 or less.

Comments and memories welcome at shannonshark at gmail dot com.

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Thursday, May 08, 2008

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Trade Post-Mortem: Examining Trades of the Past (1st in a Series)


Being GM of a Major League team is more than just running the top club, it's also about evaluating talent throughout the organization, including making not just the blockbuster deal, but the smaller deals that may take a few years to play out.

As part of an ongoing series here at The Mets Police, we will look at how trades the Mets have made in the past ultimately played out, paying particular attention to the non-blockbuster deals that are a true measure of evaluating raw talent.

This past Monday the Mets (technically their AAA affiliate the Norfolk T....er...I mean the New Orleans Zephyrs) released OF Ben Johnson. On November 15, 2006 Johnson was acquired by the Mets along with Joe Adkins from the San Diego Padres for relievers Heath Bell and Royce Ring.

Johnson struggled to stay healthy during his time with the Mets, spending most of his time on the DL. Adkins was allowed to become a minor league free agent following a so-so 2007 season. This year with the Louisvilel Bats (Reds AAA) he is 0-1 with a 0.95 ERA in 19 IP.

Meanwhile Bell has become a top reliever, appearing in 97 games for the Padres, throwing 111 innings with an ERA of 2.10 and 113 strikeouts (with just 35 walks). Ring was traded by the Padres midway through 2007 to the Braves.

At the time this trade seeemd odd - trading 2 relievers (including a lefty) for a so-so OF and another reliever. In hindsight, well, the numbers tell the story.
Thanks to the Mets Minor League Report for pointing this out