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Thursday, January 07, 2010

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Re-post: The 2010 Hall of Garvey Inductees

I'm reposting the below.  When the list of new folks eligible for the Hall of Fame came out, I revisited my "Hall of Garvey" which is for the pretty good.   I would consider Andre Dawson to be pretty good.  I heard Russo talking about how Craig Biggio will make the Hall of Fame but isn't "really a Hall of Famer" and Chris said Biggio wasn't even the best player on his team or the best second baseman of his time.   I will put Biggio in the HOG (Hall of Garvey) when the time comes.




Here's a repost of the 2010 ballot:


Years ago I created the "Hall of Garvey."  It's a place for the very very good.   Those who are just shy of the Hall of Fame  Keith Hernandez and Don Mattingly are in the HOG, and this year's Hall of Fame ballot provides some new nominees, and there's some pretty good players on the list.  However, there's a difference between pretty good and all-time.

Let's take a look at the 2010 Hall of Fame ballot and see who should make the HOF, who makes the HOG and who makes neither.

Mark McGwire:  Fame.  I'm sorry everyone, he was America's sweetheart in 1998 and you all cheered for him.  If you didn't think his workout plan was suspect at the time you were lying to yourself.  Blew away a record that hadn't been touched in 40 years.  I'm not going to ignore his fame, his infamy nor his 583 home runs. The Hall of Fame will be absurd without Bonds and Rose in it, as you'll lose the home run record holder and the hit king.   Start a Hall of Nice Guys or get over it.

Edgar Martinez.   Garvey.   There will be a push for Edgar but 2200 hits and how about you pick up a glove and catch a ball.

Barry Larkin.  Garvey.  I want to give him fame just for playing 19 seasons with one team...but 2340 hits is why the Hall of Garvey was started.  Go stand next to Steve and his 2599 hits.

Fred McGriff.  Garvey.   2009 is quite a year for the HOG.   Fred was a very good player, but 441 home runs in an era where that's not that many.   I guess he should have cheated.

Roberto Alomar.   Garvey.  There was a time where he was talked about as being in his way to being the best second baseman ever.  He fell off a cliff after age 32, just in time to come to the Mets and fall out of Fame contention.   A pretty good ballplayer even if it never showed in Queens.

Pete Rose. Fame.   4256.  You can't ignore it.

Robin Ventura.   None.   I won't go down the list of everyone eligible for the Hall of Fame but I will cover two ex-Mets.  Nice player, I liked him, but you gotta draw a line somewhere and the line is above 1885 hits.

Todd Zeile.   None.  Another nice player, but were you ever at a game and thought to yourself "there goes one of the best baseball players I have ever seen?"

This is just one man's opinion, and I don't get a vote for the HOF.   However, I do run the Hall of Garvey.   Congratulations to the Class of 2010, Roberto Alomar, Fred McGriff, Barry Larkin, and Edgar Martinez.


My 2009 Hall of Garvey Class:  Bert Blyleven, Jim Rice and Dale Murphy to the HOG.

Previous inductees include:  Steve Garvey, Keith Hernandez, Don Mattingly.

By the way, do y'all realize that as time marches on, technologies change, and newspapers die, someday someone like Matt Cerrone will have and will deserve a ballot for the actual Hall?

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Sunday, November 29, 2009

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My 2010 "Hall of Garvey" Ballot

Years ago I created the "Hall of Garvey."  It's a place for the very very good.   Those who are just shy of the Hall of Fame  Keith Hernandez and Don Mattingly are in the HOG, and this year's Hall of Fame ballot provides some new nominees, and there's some pretty good players on the list.  However, there's a difference between pretty good and all-time.

Let's take a look at the 2010 Hall of Fame ballot and see who should make the HOF, who makes the HOG and who makes neither.

Mark McGwire:  Fame.  I'm sorry everyone, he was America's sweetheart in 1998 and you all cheered for him.  If you didn't think his workout plan was suspect at the time you were lying to yourself.  Blew away a record that hadn't been touched in 40 years.  I'm not going to ignore his fame, his infamy nor his 583 home runs. The Hall of Fame will be absurd without Bonds and Rose in it, as you'll lose the home run record holder and the hit king.   Start a Hall of Nice Guys or get over it.

Edgar Martinez.   Garvey.   There will be a push for Edgar but 2200 hits and how about you pick up a glove and catch a ball.

Barry Larkin.  Garvey.  I want to give him fame just for playing 19 seasons with one team...but 2340 hits is why the Hall of Garvey was started.  Go stand next to Steve and his 2599 hits.

Fred McGriff.  Garvey.   2009 is quite a year for the HOG.   Fred was a very good player, but 441 home runs in an era where that's not that many.   I guess he should have cheated.

Roberto Alomar.   Garvey.  There was a time where he was talked about as being in his way to being the best second baseman ever.  He fell off a cliff after age 32, just in time to come to the Mets and fall out of Fame contention.   A pretty good ballplayer even if it never showed in Queens.

Pete Rose. Fame.   4256.  You can't ignore it.

Robin Ventura.   None.   I won't go down the list of everyone eligible for the Hall of Fame but I will cover two ex-Mets.  Nice player, I liked him, but you gotta draw a line somewhere and the line is above 1885 hits.

Todd Zeile.   None.  Another nice player, but were you ever at a game and thought to yourself "there goes one of the best baseball players I have ever seen?"

This is just one man's opinion, and I don't get a vote for the HOF.   However, I do run the Hall of Garvey.   Congratulations to the Class of 2010, Roberto Alomar, Fred McGriff, Barry Larkin, and Edgar Martinez.

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Friday, January 09, 2009

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Mets Police Hall of Garvey Nominees


As the blogosphere zeroes in on everyone's faux Hall of Fame ballots, I've decided to repost mine along with nominees for the Hall of Garvey.
What's the Hall of Garvey?  It's that special place for the very good baseball player.   The player you wish you had on your team.  The guy that was a winner.   The guy who just doesn't have the stats to stand with Babe Ruth, Ted Williams and Pete Rose (we'll get into that on a slow day).
The Hall of Garvey is the home of such very good players as Don Mattingly, Keith Hernandez, and of course Steve Garvey.

Rickey Henderson.   Fame..  You know a HOFer when you see one.   Memo to Rickey - wear an A's hat.
Jim Rice.   Garvey.  He belongs in the Hall of Garvey (which I invented to give a home to the likes of Jim Rice, Steve Garvey, Don Mattingly & Keith Hernandez).
Tommy John.  Fame.  288 wins.  Randy Johnson might be the final guy to get to this number.  Plus Rickey is a knucklehead and doesn't deserve to have the day to himself.
Dave Concepcion.   Neither.
Bert Blyleven.  Garvey.  287 wins.  How do I put John in and not Blyleven.   I know a HOF when I see one, he wasn't.  Off to the Hall of Garvey.
Andre Dawson, Harold Baines, Don Mattingly.  No fame for you.
Dave Parker, Alan Trammell, Lee Smith.  No.  Did you ever go to a game and get excited about Lee Smith?  No fame for you.    Parker might make the HOG some day.
Jack Morris.  Fame.   I know one when I see one.  
Mark McGwire.  Fame.   When you prove to me he cheated and you change the record book then you can send him to Pete Rose Island.   Until then I will show you Jack Buck voiced highlights.
Pete Rose.  FAME.   All time hits leader and a winner.
Dale Murphy.   A lock for the Hall of Garvey.  You kids should look up his MVP numbers some day.   Manny Ramirez has them beat by the fourth inning on June 1st.
Who would you put in the Hall of Garvey?


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Tuesday, July 15, 2008

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Put Keith In The Hall Of Garvey!

Ok now that I've got your attention - the Hall of Garvey is something I invented a few years back. It's a place for really good players who ain't Hall of Famers.

Steve Garvey was the inaugural inductee.

Other names frequently nominated include Don Mattingly and Keith Hernandez. This week a friend suggested Gooden.

What say ye? Is Keith worthy of the HOG? Any other nominations?