Showing posts with label hall of fame. Show all posts
Showing posts with label hall of fame. Show all posts

Friday, January 08, 2010

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Guest Post: no such thing as "first ballot" Hall of Famer


A guest post that needs no set-up.  Take it away, Tom!   


Two for the New Year:


1)       Anytime Rod Gilbert can be involved in anything, it is a fine thing.  He has probably been the most decent and classy athlete in this town, and has been around longer than any other.  Since arriving in 1960, he has never left, becoming an activeambassador for the Rangers and hockey ever since.  So, you might think it was bizarre to have him at the Bay press conference, but I actually called a few people whom I knew would get a smile out of that.  I believe it is part of the effort to get the Winter Classic, and why not?  If it is done here, the Rangers should be the host as an Original Six team, like they did last year at Wrigley (Hawks-Wings).  The Rangers actually should have played the Bruins last week, not the Flyers.  I’d bring in the Canadiens or the Maple Leafs to play them, not the Islanders.  The game will sell out as all the previous ones have, not due to the teams involved, but because it is an event, which caters to the “event staff” crowds we now have at all sports venues (Constantly on their cell phones telling people they are at the game, as if that made the game any better.)


2)       You’re site does say (and frankly anyone else), so I’d begin 2010 be calling out the baseball writers who will do their yearly pathetic job of denying obvious men of their status as Hall of Famers.  The BBWAA does such a pathetic job, its hard to even begin.  But since they are the media (and unaccountable at all, for any nonsense they spew), they do not get proper scrutiny.  A few items, one, no one has ever been voted unanimously – please – do I need to give the list of 40-50.  Two, there are rarely more than 2 inductees voted by the writers, though their ballot can hold 10 names – disgraceful.  In studying this for about 30 years, I’ve come to the conclusion that about 40% of the writers know what a Hall of Famer is.  Today, my guess is Dawson gets in, along with one new guy, I’m guessing Larkin, with Blyleven creeping closer to a 14th or 15th year induction.  By the way, one Jack Morris stat that the Bill James youth never mention is 175 complete games, which partly explains his high ERA, the supposed reason he gets light support.  He stayed in games when he had a big lead, saving the bullpen.  Since 1980, no one is close to Morris CG number (Clemens-118).  One other thing, how is it that writers will question Edgar Martinez, because he didn’t play the field, in spite of the fact that they rarely even consider fielding when voting for the Hall? (Brooks Robinson, Ozzie and who else?)

Good luck in the New Year, kid,
Tom  

P.S.. I despise the DH too, but fair is fair.

P.S.S.  There is no such as a so-called “First ballot Hall of Famer.”  When you retire, you are or you are not a Hall of Famer.  This is a lame term created by sportswriters sometime in the late 80’s/early 90’s, ostensibly to disguise their own ineptitude in voting practices.  The job of the voter is ‘YES” or “NO,” not when I feel like it.   


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Tuesday, January 05, 2010

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My Hall of Fame Ballot

The BBWA will announce their Hall of Fame voting tomorrow. As Shannon and I are still waiting for them to start including members of new media into the voting process, I thought I'd just reveal what my ballot would have been.


Players I vote Yes


Bert Blyleven: Can someone please explain to me how he has not yet been selected? He has 287 victories (24th all-time), 3,701 strikeouts (5th all-time), plus he ranks 8th in starts and 9th in shutouts. Had he played in NY or LA he would have been in 10 years ago.

Andre Dawson: An MVP, 8 All-Star games. 8 Gold Gloves. 438 homers - when it meant something to hit that many. Over 2700 hits and over 300 SBs. he came very close last year. There should be no question he gets in now.

Tim Raines: 808 stolen bases (5th all-time). OBP of .385. 7-time All-Star. Maybe the most feared man on the bases in the NL during the 80's. Dawson will be in, his Expos teammate should be too.

Mark McGwire: Please hold the steroid comments. Of course he did it (in my opinion) - but they were LEGAL in MLB at the time. And please, someone try to tell me that MLB wasn't condoning it. McGwire hit over 500 homeruns, held the season-best total for a few years, was a 12-time All-Star. His numbers scream HOF. Of course he will never get in because the writers that once praised him are now a bunch of hypocrites (yeah that will endear me to the BBWA)

Jack Morris: Winningest pitcher of the 1980's. Mr. Clutch. 254 Wins, 3 World Series rings, and a World Series MVP (one of the greatest pitching performances ever). Why is he not in yet?

Alan Trammell: Morris' teammate on the Tigers for so many years deserves to be in, unfortunately I doubt he will ever get in (at least this way). Look at Trammell's stats and then remember when he was playing. You can't compare him to the big SS that followed him - he was a throwback to when SS were there to get on base and for defense - both of which he did better than anyone else in the AL for most of the time he was playing. He wasn't flashy like Ozzie or a slugger like Ripken. But he was a great player nonetheless

Dale Murphy: The man won back-to-back MVP awards. The only other CF to do that was Mickey Mantle. He hit 398 homeruns when that meant something. 7 All-Star games and 5 Gold Gloves. Yet he has never received more than 23% of the vote. I don't get it.

Roberto Alomar: Over 2700 hits. Twelve consecutive All-Star games. 10 Gold Gloves. Yeah when he was with the Mets he sucked, but remember when they got him a)everyone was psyched, and b) (in typical Mets fashion) he was at the end of his career. Don't judge him as a Met, look at his numbers with Toronto, and Baltimore, and Cleveland.

Barry Larkin: A lot of people are promoting Larkin, and honestly I had to think about this one. Larkin was a lot like Trammell IMO - not flashy, a mainstay at SS for many many years. Played for one team in a smaller market. Interestingly, he and Trammell are very close stats-wise.

Players That Just Don't Cut It
Don Mattingly
: A very good player, but Keith was better.

Edgar Martinez: Maybe if you had played a position. (As you can guess I am very anti-DH)

Lee Smith: The most meaningless stat category is Saves. And he accumulated among the most meaningless saves of all.

Fred McGriff: Sure good numbers, but I just don't think Hall of Fame when I think of the Crime Dog

All The Rest (the "Why Are You Even On The Ballot" group)
Kevin Appier, Harold Baines,
Ellis Burks, Andres Galarraga, Pat Hentgen, Mike Jackson, Eric Karros, Ray Lankford, Dave Parker, Shane Reynolds, David Segui, Robin Ventura, Todd Zeile


Realistically, I am thinking 3 of the ones I selected make it this year - Dawson, Alomar, and Blyleven.



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Wednesday, February 18, 2009

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Clean Up The Hall of Fame

Mark McGwire can't get elected.

Pete Rose and Joe Jackson are banned.

The way it looks now, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmiero, and Alex Rodriguez won't get in either

MLB and the BBWAA want to maintain the "purity" of the Hall of Fame.

OK, I'll get on board with that. But if we really want to keep the Hall pure, then we have to do some house-cleaning. Time to weed out those who are "un-worthy." Let's start with 15 for now:
  1. Babe Ruth - The man was a drunk and a womanizer. He openly violated federal law (prohibition). He also fathered a child by a woman other than his wife.
  2. Ty Cobb - A racist and murderer. Also accused of fixing games
  3. Tris Speaker - Accused of fixing games with Cobb
  4. Cap Anson - Racist.
  5. Pud Galvin - Steroid user
  6. Enos Slaughter - Racist
  7. Gaylord Perry - Admitted to using a spitball in clear violation of MLB rules
  8. Kirby Pucket - Womanizer
  9. Paul Molitor - Admitted drug user
  10. Fergie Jenkins - Admitted drug user
  11. Don Sutton - Admitted doctoring baseballs
  12. Whitey Ford - Admitted doctoring baseballs
  13. Rogers Hornsby - Admitted to cheating in a self-penned article "You've Got To Cheat To Win"
  14. Ralph Kiner - Admitted to using amphetamines
  15. Willie Stargell - Used Amphetamines
And I haven't even gotten started on the non-players in the Hall (you know Comiskey is at the top of that list).

Who else should we weed out? Or better yet, who will be left once we are done?

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Sunday, February 15, 2009

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The Week in Review

People love pictures and this week we chronicled the last days of Shea Stadium with pictures on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday (We will continue with more pictures on Monday and Tuesday - until Shea is no more).

Of course the big story continued to focus Alex Rodriguez and the revelation of his steroid use and the collateral damage that may come from it. Of particular concern was Derek Jeter's non-emphatic denial that he could be on the list of players who tested positive.

As far as A-Rod goes, we asked the hypothetical question if you would do steroids for $27 million a year? And we offered media tips to A-Rod on how to deal with the media in spring training

Meanwhile Bud Selig continues to show his hypocrisy by suggesting he would suspend A-Rod and reinstate pre-steroid records. But if he's going to do that, then he needs to go back over 100 years to the first steroid user in baseball.

And since baseball has become so hypocritical, we here at The Mets Police offered up nominations for our Hall of Infamy.

Lastly, but not forgotten, was the announcement this week that Brett Favre was retiring (again) and that he now joins others who retired in strange uniforms.


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Wednesday, February 11, 2009

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Nominations For the 2009 Hall Of Infamy

Cooperstown has become a joke.

It may not be the baseball Hall of Fame's fault, but nonetheless it's a joke.

You can't have a Hall of Fame without the all-time leaders in all the offensive categories.

I'm sorry that some of these men were mean to sports writers, or took anabolic steroids, or bet on games, their numbers are what they are.

Maybe "Infamy" is unfair to some of the people I will list on the first ever ballot.  Let's call them the "Hall of Men With Great Stats" or the Hall of Famous or something.

This hall only worries about stats baby.  It doesn't matter if you spit on the ball or corked your bat or bribed the ump or took steroids.  Stats get you in, and that's it.  Unlike other halls you only need to sit out one full season to be enshrined

It's time to take the Hall back from the sportswriters and back into the hands of fans.  I invite you to vote, or even nominate, and we'll publish the results in a month or so.  This is your chance to stick up for Gil Hodges, Steve Garvey, Don Mattingly or anyone else you'd like to see enshrined.  Some day I'm sure Alex Rodriguez will wind up in our building.   Before we get to those folks, there's some others to nominate:

Ladies and gentlemen, the nominees for the 2009 Hall of Famous Baseball Players.

Joe Jackson.   You may know him as "shoeless."   He even has his own virtual Hall.  Jackson has the third highest batting average of all-time, with 1700 hits in ten full seasons (Ichiro type numbers!)   His .408 in 1911 was the highest of the century and hasn't even been approached here in Century 21.   You've surely heard of him, hence his nomination for the Hall of Famous.

Pete Rose.  Pete is baseball's hit king with 4256.  Six World Series and a main part of the history of not just the Reds, but also the Phillies.  Hard to ignore Charlie Hustle's credentials on the field.

Barry Bonds.  The Home Run King.   Two numbers that stand without explanation:  73 and the most famous number of them all 762.   How could you even consider a hall without the King?

Roger Maris.   As hard as it is for anyone under thirty to believe, 60 home runs was once very uncommon in baseball.   Roger was the only one to do it between Ruth and McGwire.  A two time MVP who played in seven World Series and was a leader with the Yankees and Cardinals.

Mark McGwire.  The man who saved baseball.  The man who returned the power game to a game that had become boring with 10 run games a rarity. A 12 time all-star who played in three consecutive World Series and has 583 home runs.  Hard credentials for someone to ignore.

Sammy Sosa.  The other smiling face of the legendary summer of 1998.  A man so beloved by all that even New York City threw a tickertape parade for a Chicago Cub.  A 7 time All-Star, an MVP and of course609 home runs including three seasons over 60.

Jack Morris.  What, you thought I was only going to list bad guys?  254 wins and the best pitcher of his decade.  He deserves a look.

Bert Blyleven.  287 wins, 3701 strikeouts.  Nobody will win 287 games again.

Tommy John.   288 wins.  You can't win 288 if you don't win 287, and nobody will.

Roger Clemens.   When he was playing he was considered one of the great pitchers of all time.  354 wins and 4672 strike outs.  Let me know who is pitching today that will even hit half those numbers.

Rafael Palmeiro.  Before the writers found righteousness there were two numbers that got you into any Hall:  3,000 and 500.   Raffy has them both.

Did I miss someone?   Hit comments and add your nominations or votes!



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Sunday, February 08, 2009

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Selig should learn from Lincoln to save baseball and the Hall of Fame

Baseball writers (including Bill Madden of the News) are already talking about keeping A-Rod out of the Hall of Fame.

This Hall is going to have quite a problem when I take my son there in 2020.

Among the people who it seems won't be in the Hall will be Barry Bonds (you know, baseball's home run leader both season and career) and Roger Clemens (he only won 354 games and struck out 4600 batters).

Mark McGwire, who the country cheered in 1998.  Not in.

Sammy Sosa, the guy New York City had a ticker-tape parade for - yes, you can look it up, New York had a parade for a Chicago Cub.  He won't be in.

Rafael Palmeiro with his 3,000 hits and 569 homers.  Not in.

The all-time hit king, Pete Rose, he won't be in.

A-Rod and his three MVP's - no chance they award him another one - he won't be in.

It's kind of hard to have a Hall of Fame when all the top stat accumulators are not in.

In this 200th anniversary of the birth of Abraham Lincoln, Bud Selig needs to take a page from Abe.

The only way to move on is to leave the past in the past.   Declare amnesty for all past sins.  The numbers shall hold, those whose numbers deserve the Hall should make it in.   You can't undo the last 15 years.  All you can do is fix the future.

Move forward with a really tough drug police, one that the players union should be shamed into accepting.  It's time to move on.


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Saturday, January 17, 2009

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You Don't Know Baseball Like You Used To

An extremely slow day, and I don't feel like writing about patches yet again, so I come to you with a premise:  You don't know baseball like you used to.

I'm going to ask you some simple baseball questions.  15 years ago you would have rattled these off and laughed in my face about how easy they were.

1.  What is the current number of home runs needed to become the all-time career home run leader?  You have no idea do you?  You know it used to be 755 and it was 714 once, but what's the number now?

2.  Remember 2130?  Of course you do.   Now Cal Ripken is baseball's all-time Iron Man.   In how many consecutive games did Cal play?

3.  I will make this a little easier.   What is the current single season home run record?   72?  73?  74?  You tell me.  Are you sure?

4.  Who is currently the American League leader for most home runs in a season and how many did he hit?

The 2013 Hall of Fame ballot sure will be interesting.   Will the writers ignore Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, and Roger Clemens, and continue to ignore Pete Rose, Rafael Palmeiro (3,000 and 500) and the most popular post-strike baseball player Mark McGwire, you know the guy that restored baseball as America's Past Time?

Amazing how things change.

(762, 2632 , 73 and 61 by Roger Maris).

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Thursday, January 15, 2009

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William Shea - Hall of Famer?

I know, you're thinking that I've finally lost it. Why should a lawyer from NY who had a stadium named after him be enshrined in the Hall of Fame?

Because he changed the game.

After the Dodgers and Giants left New York in 1957, Mayor Robert Wagner charged Bill Shea with bringing a National League team back to NYC. Shea contacted Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati but was turned down by every team.

Refusing to give up, in 1959 Shea teamed up with Branch Rickey and announced the formation of the Continental Baseball League. The league would be the first serious challenge to the National and American Leagues since the ill-fated Federal League in 1914-15. The proposed league would place teams in New York, Denver, Houston, Minneapolis, Toronto, Atlanta, Buffalo, and Dallas. With the exception on New York, none of these cities at the time had a major league level baseball team.

Shea was able to line up owners and financing for the league in fairly quick order - including Bob Howsam (original owner of the Denver Broncos) and Jack Kent Cooke (owner of the Redskins, Lakers, and LA Kings).

Realizing that the challenge was serious, the NL and AL approached Shea and offered expansion teams in 3 of the Continental League cities - NY, Minneapolis, and Houston. With his original goal in hand, Shea agreed to disband the league.

Shea's legacy is more than just getting those 3 teams. Seven of the eight Continental League cities would eventually support a major league franchise, the sole exception being Buffalo. He engineered the first expansion of major league baseball since the American League and National League agreed to work together in 1903.

There are 29 members of the Hall of Fame that are designated as either an Executive or Pioneer. William Shea may not have played the game, nor did he manage or own a team. But there can be no doubt that he changed the game by initiating expansion, a true pioneer of the game. And for that maybe he deserves recognition in Cooperstown.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009

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Counterpoint: Pete Rose Should Not Be Enshrined In The Hall

Let's clarify something right off the bat. The Hall of Fame is not ignoring Pete Rose. In fact, Pete Rose is already in the Hall of Fame.

Yes, I wrote that correctly.

Pete Rose is already in the Hall of Fame.

His accomplishments are recognized and memorabilia from his career is displayed. Depending on when you go you might also actually see a picture of him (probably sliding head first).

What he does not have is a plaque among the Hall of Famers. And this is the way it should be.

“Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.”
That is the rule that Rose violated. It is displayed in every single clubhouse at every single level of organized, affiliated baseball. And I don't mean displayed like the calorie chart of Whoppers at Burger King. It is displayed on signs large enough to see across the locker room.

In other words - if you ever set foot in a professional locker room, you should know this rule. How many times did Pete Rose see this rule? How many clubhouses did he walk into and out of in his career? He played or managed in 4,330 games in the majors. Add in minor league games, exhibitions, spring trainings, practices, etc. - you have to figure Rose walked past this sign at least 6,000 times in his life.

He knew what the rule was - and he knew the consequences of violating that rule.

It's not a temporary ban. It's not a suspension. It says permanently ineligible.

Rose was an amazing player. Was he the greatest at any specific position? Hardly. But he was outstanding at 5 different positions. And he played the game with more heart and passion than maybe anyone in the history of the game. He wanted to win all the time no matter what.

Sadly it was that passion for winning that was ultimately his downfall.

The debate whether Rose gambled or not is in the past (though the specifics of how he bet are still in dispute). Even if - as Rose now claims (and we know what kind of credibility that has) - he only placed bets on his team to win, it still violated baseball's prime directive.

And as for those who will lump Rose in with those from the steroid era - stop. It's not the same thing. None of the juiced ballplayers (McGwire, Sosa, etc.) ever broke a baseball rule. There was no rule saying they couldn't use supplements. They did what they had to do to win and they should be in the Hall when their time comes up (see my comments about McGwire).

Bottom line, Pete broke the rule. You break the rule, you suffer the consequences.

Tuesday, January 13, 2009

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Thinking About Ollie, Wolf, Roger, Empty Seats In The Bronx and the New Name For Mets Stadium

Derek Lowe got his money and his fourth year.   I guess it's hard to give a 35 year old a fourth year, thing stend not to work out (cough, Pedro) with that fourth year, but on the other hand it's the price of doing business these days.  The old one stupid owner theory.

So I'd like to be mad and throw things but I get it.

So we're back to Oliver Perez.  Guess who represents him.   Guess who knows the Mets really need starters.  How much do you think a 27 year old left-hander is going to cost now?   Ollie, you can buy lunch.

What are the Mets going to do, say no?   Tim Redding is a fifth starter....they need a four, and by four I don't mean Four Inning Pedro.

This Randy Wolf fellow intrigues me.   He used to be pretty good back when with the Phillies before the Tommy John surgery.   He might be worth a gamble.

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Morgan Stanley Stadium in 2010?   Is there a single person out there who thinks the present Name Which Shall Not Be Said (until they stop using taxpayer money to name ballparks) will last 20 years?   The Washington Post printed the following:

"I think within 12 months, Citigroup no longer exists," said William Smith at Smith Asset Management, who owns Citigroup shares. He has been calling for a breakup of Citigroup for years, and believes the government will force that fate in piece-meal fashion over the coming year.
The Boston Herald has a piece about Roger Clemens not making the Hall of Fame.  Absurd.  Like I said about Rose unless you're going to re-write the results book, Clemens is a Hall of Famer.

I may have to start my own Pantheon Of The Famous and invite Rose, Bonds, McGwire & Sosa to be in the inaugural class.

Finally, The Times says you can still get premium seats at Yankee III.  20 games will only set you back seven grand.

Published: January 14, 2009
The Yankees have hired a division of a residential real estate brokerage, Prudential Douglas Elliman, to help sell unsold premium seats and luxury boxes at their new stadium.


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Tuesday, January 13, 2009

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Point: Put Pete Rose In the Hall Of Fame


Even Jim Rice is in the Hall of Fame now, but Pete Rose isn't.

I say put Pete in the Hall. Here's why.

You're all quick to throw your heroes away, and you shouldn't.

There were tons of McGwire & Sosa jerseys around in the mid 90s. Everyone knew they were on steroids. New York City had a ticker-tape parade for a Chicago Cub! Barry Bonds can break that record, great let's all watch Joe buck make the call! Then you turned on Bonds too when it turned out he wasn't that nice of a guy.   Then Clemens was the cool story in baseball - wow 340 wins!  Then you turned on him too.

Andy Pettitte is another hero with a decision to make these days.  If he resigns with the Yankees he can be a "Yankee for life" but if he signs with someone else, then he'll wind up as Clemens' hated steroid buddy.

Pete Rose.  4256 Hits.  3 rings.  17 time all star.  If you saw him play you know how good he was.  Nobody ever once thought he was not trying to win.  People in Cincinnati loved him, and people in Philadelphia loved him.  

He did a bad thing.  It has been twenty years.  If you have to put "suspended from baseball" on the plaque then do it.  Otherwise please remove all the bats and balls and uniforms and other Pete Rose memorabilia from the building in Cooperstown.   While you're at it, let's put some asterisks next to some of the World Series winners - maybe the 1980 Royals should be declared retroactive champions since Pete is a non-person.

You can't have a Hall of Fame without the all time hits leader, the home run season leader, the home run career leader, and a guy that in 2007 was being called the best pitcher in 50 years.  You can't undo the record book.   You can't take back the spitballs, you can't take back the steroid-added home runs, you can't take back 4256 hits.

It's time to put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame.


Put 'em all in. Pete's been ostracized for 20 years. Enough.

Monday, January 12, 2009

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Baseball Writers Prove Their Hypocrisy Yet Again

The Hall of Fame voting results were announced this afternoon and once again, the members of the BBWAA have shown that they are a bunch of hypocrites. Ricky Henderson – a man with amazing talent that was from time to time berated by the media for being an egomaniac – and Jim Rice – one of the most feared hitters on the field yet hated by media off the field – were both elected to the Hall.

Yet Mark McGwire – who for several years was the media’s darling; who broke Roger Maris’ homerun record; who was held up as a great American in papers across the country; who hit over 500 homeruns; and who did nothing against the rules of baseball was yet again snubbed by the same writers that held him aloft just 10 years ago.

I give credit to the 118 writers who did vote for McGwire this year – and have to wonder about the 10 who voted for him last year and did not vote for him this year. In many ways they are even worse hypocrites than the rest of this sorry lot.

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Friday, January 09, 2009

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Mets Police Hall of Garvey Nominees


As the blogosphere zeroes in on everyone's faux Hall of Fame ballots, I've decided to repost mine along with nominees for the Hall of Garvey.
What's the Hall of Garvey?  It's that special place for the very good baseball player.   The player you wish you had on your team.  The guy that was a winner.   The guy who just doesn't have the stats to stand with Babe Ruth, Ted Williams and Pete Rose (we'll get into that on a slow day).
The Hall of Garvey is the home of such very good players as Don Mattingly, Keith Hernandez, and of course Steve Garvey.

Rickey Henderson.   Fame..  You know a HOFer when you see one.   Memo to Rickey - wear an A's hat.
Jim Rice.   Garvey.  He belongs in the Hall of Garvey (which I invented to give a home to the likes of Jim Rice, Steve Garvey, Don Mattingly & Keith Hernandez).
Tommy John.  Fame.  288 wins.  Randy Johnson might be the final guy to get to this number.  Plus Rickey is a knucklehead and doesn't deserve to have the day to himself.
Dave Concepcion.   Neither.
Bert Blyleven.  Garvey.  287 wins.  How do I put John in and not Blyleven.   I know a HOF when I see one, he wasn't.  Off to the Hall of Garvey.
Andre Dawson, Harold Baines, Don Mattingly.  No fame for you.
Dave Parker, Alan Trammell, Lee Smith.  No.  Did you ever go to a game and get excited about Lee Smith?  No fame for you.    Parker might make the HOG some day.
Jack Morris.  Fame.   I know one when I see one.  
Mark McGwire.  Fame.   When you prove to me he cheated and you change the record book then you can send him to Pete Rose Island.   Until then I will show you Jack Buck voiced highlights.
Pete Rose.  FAME.   All time hits leader and a winner.
Dale Murphy.   A lock for the Hall of Garvey.  You kids should look up his MVP numbers some day.   Manny Ramirez has them beat by the fourth inning on June 1st.
Who would you put in the Hall of Garvey?


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Thursday, January 08, 2009

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My Hall of Fame Ballot

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Every year for the last few years I have posted my thoughts (in the past on my own blog) on who the Baseball Writers Association of America (BBWAA) should enshrine into the hallowed halls of Cooperstown (as if they would ever listen to just a fan.) Anyway, here goes my 4th Annual HOF Ballot.

This year 23 former players are on the ballot (down from 25 last year). Several newcomers this year, but really only one that stands out as a first ballot HOFer:

Ricky Henderson – I don’t think anyone could legitimately argue that Ricky was not a Hall of Famer. Was he abrasive? Almost constantly. Did he have a big ego? He made Reggie look humble. But the man could play the game. One of the greatest lead off men in history (I think Ty Cobb would debate that point), he had that deadly combination of power and speed – and he’d be the first to tell you that too. I would love to see him go in with a San Diego Sea Dawgs cap.

And returning from last year:

Jim Rice – This is Rice’s last year on the ballot, but the good news is he came very close last year with 72.2%. I was divided on Rice during his first few years of eligibility, but when I look back, he was one of the most feared hitters during his playing days. Had he not pissed off the media so much he probably would have gotten in well before now.

Andre Dawson – This is now his 8th year on the ballot. I still don't get how you can ignore 438 HRs and 314 SBs and an MVP. He did get 66% last year so the future looks decent for his eventual selection.

Tim Raines - Raines was a seven-time All-Star who played 23 seasons and batted .294 with 2,605 hits and 808 steals, fifth on the career list. He was the 1986 NL batting champion. More than that, he was feared both at the plate and on the basepaths. The Rock deserves a plaque.

Bert Blyleven - This is now his 12th year on the ballot. He has 287 victories (24th all-time), 3,701 strikeouts (5th all-time), plus he ranks 8th in starts and 9th in shutouts. He had his best vote total last year (62%) but time is running out and a lot of new first ballot players are coming in the next few years.

Alan Trammel – This is his 8th year on the ballot, and after several very low vote totals (he’s never cracked the 20% mark) I don't think he will ever make it. Tram pales in comparison to the new breed of shortstops – which is an unfair comparison and one I hope that the Veteran's Committee will eventually rectify.

Mark McGwire – Yes his numbers were enhanced by chemicals - but he didn't do anything outside the rules of baseball. I would even argue that MLB knew he was on roids and still promoted him. Should we punish him for acting within the rules?

Jack Morris – Best money pitcher ever. Opponents to his selection will cite his high ERA. That’s not all that makes a pitcher great. You knew when Morris was on the mound that you were seeing something special.

Then there are the almost but not quite players:

David Cone - Nice career but not a HOFer
Mark Grace - Lumped in with Mattingly and Hernandez
Tommy John - I vote no. Yeah he had almost the same number of wins as Blyleven, but he wasn't as good a pitcher
Don Mattingly - outside NY his star is not as big - a no
Dale Murphy - I go back and forth on him. Ultimately I end up a no, but woudln’t be upset if he made it

The rest in my opinion are just taking up room on the ballot

Harold Baines - Not even close
Jay Bell - Please
Ron Gant - Who was he again?
Jesse Orosco - I thought he was still pitching somewhere
Dave Parker – Hell of a player but no
Dan Plesac - Can anyone get on the ballot?
Lee Smith - No, but fun guy to have a beer with
Greg Vaughn - No
Mo Vaughn – As mentioned previously, the Mets are actually highlighting him on the website
Matt Williams - No

Tuesday, December 09, 2008

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Santo Wants HOF Watered Down

OK so he didn't use those words exactly. Here is what Ron Santo said yesterday after not being selected by the Veterans Committee:

''It's a travesty,'' Santo said, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. ''When I saw nobody got in again, I go, 'Whoa, this is wrong.' They can't keep going the way they're going. They've got to put a [different] committee out there. It'll be eight years now that they've voted and not let anybody in."

So according to Mr. Santo, the Veterans Committee should always be putting people in. Quantity over quality.

Does Santo realized who makes up the current committee? It's all the living Hall of Famers! So he just insulted the very group that he wants to belong to!

Hey Ron, nowhere does it say that the Hall of Fame has to put anyone in if they don't think they were qualified. And clearly the BBWAA and the current Hall of Fame members do not think you are qualified.

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Tuesday, December 09, 2008

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They Picked The Wrong Joe

The Veteran's Committee made their selection yesterday.
They selected a guy named Joe who
  • Was an All-Star 2B
  • A former MVP
  • A manager of several teams
  • Once wore a Yankee uniform
The problem was his last name was not Torre.

As I said yesterday, there was no valid reason for the Veterans Committee - either the pre-1943 group or the post-1942 group - to select anyone. The Hall of Fame has been watered down so many times by various committees over the years. Joe Gordon furthers that decline.

However, if there is anyone whose selection yesterday would not have brought down the quality inside the halls of Cooperstown it is Joe Torre. Torre was a borderline candidate as a player. Factor in his managerial career and his total contribution to the game merits him a plaque.

Him....not Gordon.

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Monday, December 08, 2008

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Enough With The Veteran's Committee Already

The Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee announces the results of their latest voting today. Popular sentiment would have this new incarnation of the committee select Ron Santo and Gil Hodges for enshrinement.

As a Brooklyn native it's almost sacrilege for me to say this, but I really hope Hodges (or any of the rest) do not get in.

Over the years the Veteran's Committee has consistently watered down the Hall of Fame, sometimes to ridiculous extremes.

Hodges and Santo (and Allen, Kaat, etc.) were all very good players. And each of them had a chance to be elected to the Hall of Fame by the BBWAA for 15 years. They all had up to 15 chances to get in - and none of then got in. The best Hodges ever did was 63.4% in his final year; Santo didn't even do that well, breaking 40% only once (also in his last year).

A Hall of Famer should not need over 15 chances to be enshrined.

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Wednesday, December 03, 2008

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Mo Vaughn Gave His Life To The Mets

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So the Hall of Fame ballot was announced yesterday and there are four players on the list that spent some time in a Mets uniform, 2 who were "real Mets"(Jesse Orosco & David Cone), and 2 who were rented players (Ricky Henderson & Mo Vaughn).
Now of course each team likes to promote their own players, be they deserving or not. So it came as no surprise yesterday when I saw an article on the Mets website doing just that. Except the title mentioned "A Trio of Mets" on the ballot, and who's picture is included - Mo Vaughn!
Mo had some good years - in Boston
He even had 2 ok years - in Anaheim
But the man played only 166 games with the Mets.
I love that the Mets seemingly want to embrace history - but come on, embrace your own history, not someone else's.

Wednesday, July 16, 2008

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I Think I OD'd on Baseball This Weekend

I'm still recovering from last night - left the Stadium at 2 am and got home at 3:30. But a quick snapshot of the last several days.

From Saturday through Tuesday, the tally for me is:
  • 2 stadiums (Yankee & Shea)
  • 4 games
  • 40.875 innings (two 8 1/2 inning games, one 9 inning, and one 14 5/6)
  • I don't know how many players, pitches, etc.
  • 6 hours waiting in lines for autographs at FanFest
  • 4 HOF autographs (Earl Weaver, Orlando Cepeda, Juan Marichal, & Gary Carter)
  • 3 children of HOFers met (Mantle's sons and Jackie Robinson's daughter)
  • Several Team USA autographs
  • I think a dozen hot dogs and eight beers
  • Almost 1,000 pictures taken (which will be reduced to probably 150 once I go through them)
  • One new David Wright jersey (home, blue pinstripe, with Shea patch, size 44)
  • An undisclosed amount spent on souveneirs
  • About 28 hours total of baseball activities

(And last night's 15 inning adventure was my SECOND 15 inning game this month. I saw one at SafeCo a few weeks ago too.)

I think I need a few days for everything to sink in but man, did I enjoy this weekend.

Tuesday, July 15, 2008

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Put Keith In The Hall Of Garvey!

Ok now that I've got your attention - the Hall of Garvey is something I invented a few years back. It's a place for really good players who ain't Hall of Famers.

Steve Garvey was the inaugural inductee.

Other names frequently nominated include Don Mattingly and Keith Hernandez. This week a friend suggested Gooden.

What say ye? Is Keith worthy of the HOG? Any other nominations?